Charter Amendment Change Proposal Related To Public Notification

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23 thoughts on “Charter Amendment Change Proposal Related To Public Notification”

  1. You are right I should stand by the rule of a number with anonymous this is getting out of control again. So anonymous put a number with the word anonymous stick with that number or I will not put up anymore of your comments.

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  2. I believe Councilwoman Horvath was referring to the cost of having public notices etc. printed in newspapers which costs $14,000.00 a year. Councilwoman Hicks-Clayton was referring to the over-all cost including the above plus the bi-yearly newsletter, etc..

    I agree with Kathy, having an open comment section on a city Facebook/Website would be improper. Lots of people say things they wouldn’t say if everyone knew who they were and this would not be helpful at all.

    What we are looking for is information broadcast via the internet, and that is all a city Website/Facebook page should be.

    I realize we cannot go completely paperless due to the many seniors who do not use the internet. However, in order to grow our city we need to use the technology that younger generations use as a means of reaching out to them.

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  3. I’m beginning to think, Kathy, that the “seniors” you refer to as not having computers or e-technology are in the minority. I’m a senior and I’m “fluent” in e-technology and that’s because I was around when computers were in their infancy and before e-technology. And what’s with “Anonymous”? I thought one of your rules was that anyone posting as Anonymous had to put a number after it so we knew the same person was posting? And – Anonymous – the reason council doesn’t post on this blog – other than LHC – I’m pretty sure is because they don’t want to argue with the residents. But I’m also pretty sure that quite a few of them aren’t tech-savvy as evidenced by one council person including me on an e-mail he sent to the other council members after I’d sent a suggestion to them. What he had to say about me will live in infamy. Wasn’t flattering at all and as a matter of fact, it told the TRUE story about what he thought of me and the residents. God forbid we should ever question them on anything. Another one said he was “too busy” to even research the items on the agenda so he was making an informed, educated vote. Another doesn’t even know Roberts Rules of Order and tried to bring up a subject at one of the council meetings that is definitely not allowed. And our Chair allowed someone to speak about a political subject that is CERTAINLY not allowed under Roberts Rules of order. I’m of the opinion that most of them need to go. They’re TOO OLD in their thinking. And thank you, Kathy, for mentioning our mayor’s famous quote – The city with a future. What a crock! We’ve got homes in the South end that flood time and time again and all the city can do is say – let’s do a study! And then do they act on the results? No. So those homes are gradually being damaged again and again. Instead of “doing another study,” how ’bout we spend that money on e-technology, ACT on the study results, make the employees AND THE CITY responsible for the cars they use and the gas they use that we as taxpayers pay for, taking away cars that “certain” directors have no business having, making the mayor drive a car that isn’t a Police Interceptor which he has no business having….God. I could go on and on. We need new blood on the council and in the mayor’s office. I’m fed up with this city’s “leaders” and believe me, if I could sell my home for what it’s worth I’d be SO out of here. Which is another thing. Do you think that most people – especially those in the South end – could sell their homes when they continually flood?

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  4. I’m not saying it should be done with open comments I’ve said that I would never create a Facebook page for the City with open comments. I’ve said in the beginning of any Twitter, Facebook it should be used to push out information. With the option for residents to post photos if they would like at the Citys events. Tree lighting, Sprit Festival, Parades, Park Cleanups, Meetings. I’ve asked for years that the council make a committee that is made up of volunteers to oversee the operation of Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, and E-Newsletter. Any information that department heads would like to have posted would be emailed to the person on this committee who then would be responsible for getting that information up. This would be a good way to get the younger generation involved in the City letting the local colleges and universities know what the City is looking for. The City administration and Council continue to say they can’t afford to make a department for this like other Cities do. Fine if it’s done this way the city doesn’t have to pay anyone. Facebook and Twitter offer messaging if residents have concerns they can voice those concerns via the messaging feature to the appropriate person. Not only would this committee have access to these pages but, of course, the Mayor department heads and all council members.
    To just dismiss this idea before you even try goes against everything that we are as a society it goes against our own City motto “A City With A Future.”

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  5. I’m sure that this will be sorted out by one or both council members I for one don’t think that the City should stop printing in the paper there is after all a large population of seniors who live in the city. Seniors for the most part, don’t use the internet so keeping the council meetings published with that medium is important. However, E-communication can be used to reach out to the rest of the residents that don’t get their information from more traditional sources. The fact that Facebook, Twitter, Instagram are for free should be taken into account and for some reason that’s never talked about.

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  6. Wow, what is the real cost for the ink publishing? Over $40K or less than $20K? That is the public benefits that this blog provide: The truth!!!!!!!!!!

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  7. dearborn heights-
    if its that easy then why not done so far? and if you think the page will be open for public comment without monitoring and prior approval you should review your thoughts. This blog is monitored by you and you sometime refuse to publish some nasty languages or whatever dos’nt meet the decency standards or out-lowed lies and fabricated informations. The Face Book department may grow to have several employees needed to handel the information trafics. The council also must set a stadards for posting of that page and must establish a city policy to operate that page, and please don’t forget that the E-techology will quick to spread all over the city departments and soon will be the preffered avenue to communicate internally and externally. Please remember that everybody love chocolate and the E-Techology is the best among all chocolatic communication venues.

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  8. The councilwoman who don’t want to comments on this blog made my day better. Now I know how much city officials want to read and blog on this site. Otherwise why even bother reading and demanding to talk to the master blogger! And saying that publically on this blog. Good for you councilwoman for your courage and let me assure you that on this blog, so far bloggers respected themselves and others and maintained high level of integrity and honesty regarding what they blog about. You shouldn’t fear to share with others your thoughts and opinion about public issues and blog public information as you wish. I voted for you and I will again, and I hope you start communicating using the E-technology, you will be happy and you will get hooked to the E and convenience others to FaceBook you and Hash-Tag you and you will be tweeting clear and lowed. and here my E-Hello to you.

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  9. That’s what happens when you’re talking to people who have no idea about Facebook or e-techology in general. There they go again. Spending unneeded money.

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  10. What are you talking about a director of Facebook are you kidding me that isn’t necessary at all I’ll do it for free. Just let them send me what they want put up on any given day send to me in an email I’d be more than happy to do it. Just need someone to send pics from events in city, even residents could post their own pics from different events right from their phones. Let’s not make this more complicated then it needs to be.

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  11. I really don’t like to comment on this blog. I would rather speak to the blog master directly and have a conversation. However I feel compelled to write about the $40,000 cost to the paper that has been bantered around for the past week or so. First and foremost we do not pay $40,000 to the paper. Never have and probably never will. Last year the amount paid to the paper was approximately $14,000. That includes the printing of the Council Minutes, which, by the way, are a summarization of the minutes and not the full minutes, all bid requests, various requests from CDBG and occasionally information that has to be posted from various other departments. Again, at this point in our 2014-15 budget we have paid approximately $6000 with about 5 months left to go. Hope this clears up the matter.

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  12. How you pay for the cost of the department of Face Book, director salary, secretary, Face Book specialist, director car, and benefits?

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  13. Sorry, Anonymous, but THIS voter is NOT VOTING FOR ANY MORE TAX INCREASES. The city is SAVING $40,000 by going away from print media. Most of the e-technology is free. I don’t believe e-technology will cost them that much. Not gonna do it – NO WAY! I’m tired of them taking and taking. Time for them to start giving without presenting us with a bill.

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  14. From Google website:
    “Live! Watch President Obama’s State of the Union address. Tonight on YouTube at 9p ET”

    when Dearborn Heights will have the council meetings live on You Tube?

    I believe Dearborn Heights voters will approve a tax millage to cover the cost of this very, very new and costly advanced and rare technological innovation.

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  15. Hello bloggers, E-Information is the best affordable method so far to push information to the people, its load and click and the message ring on your E-Gadget. Without the “E” you have to put some effort to seek the information, in the case of Dearborn Heights and many other municipalities, you have to be at the council meetings to make public comment and you must have cable to watch the meetings, and the meetings are not streamlined on the city website so you can’t review them for follow-up, unless you want to ask for a CD or spend time to read the minutes and take notes.
    Pushing public information out to public needs commitment to transparent policy, and since transparency lead to trust and trust lead to cooperation and cooperation lead to more options and more options lead to better decisions and better decisions lead to better results and better results lead to confidence and confidence lead to better leaders and better leaders lead to better operation and better operation needs transparency to stay that way. It’s a complete leadership circles that keep circling around transparency.
    Practicing the art of transparency is effortless and is the magic key to public services.
    E-news force transparency by way of constant demand to provide information, E-Info, are permanent, instant, can be analyzed and checked against previous info or news and expose the truth about an issue or event or statements or subject, or records.
    Dearborn Heights is on the right track by studying and possibly proposing to amend the city charter to include E-publishing and hopefully E-news/E-info.
    It’s about time, but kudos to the city officials for embracing The E-technology

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  16. It doesn’t bother me that much that these things are printed up for them. If they want to markup something with remarks or questions and so on it’s easy to do on paper you can highlight and or add remarks while looking at a paper. On your computer, there are many different programs to do that. Evernote is just one of many programs that you can do that in. You might say well they could print the page they want to mark up and bring it with them. My question is this if I’m getting around a little more than a ‘dollar an hour’ for my work why should I pay out of my pocket for printer ink and paper?
    If they didn’t have a packet with them at the meeting and wanted to follow along they would need to have laptop, tablet PC, or iPad to do that. The city hasn’t any for any employee or council members to use. Just how many on that council would be able to use one to begin with? Having said all of that to continue to print and deliver this and in the same breath say for over 12 years that this city can’t afford to have an e-letter is just plain laughable.

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  17. Why has it taken this long for these people to see the benefits of e-media when they KNEW they were paying $40,000 a year for print media? I’ve said it before but I’ll say it again – and again – and again. They need to go. We need PROGRESSIVE thinkers on this council – AND IN THE MAYOR’S OFFICE. Our costs just keep going up and they just don’t listen to us. This is the problem with so many politicians these days. We voted them in and they won’t listen. Why are they there then? We need people who will listen to us and make INTELLIGENT, INFORMED DECISIONS.

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  18. Inform the public in any way possible is a key to better public services. Puching information to the public is way better then the public trying to pull them out. Less FOIA means more transperacy. Using all the avenues to inform the public is very good practice.

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  19. $40,000.00 for print media!!! I bet that doesn’t include the cost of printing out the 100+ pages to council members twice a month for council meetings and having them delivered to their houses.

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