If street repair is put off for a few more years what will the streets look like then?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The City is borrowing money from the Water fund, and road Fund what if any thing is left in these funds? These funds have an intended purpose now they are not being used for that purpose. Take the road fund, the City has borrowed from that fund already and the streets are in desperate need of repair. While the streets are crumbling like a crumb cake and the problem is spreading will there ever be enough money to fix them? As the problem grows so does the expense of fixing the problem. putting off taking care of the City’s infrastructure is the same as putting off taking care of something that needs  repair in your home. With time the problem gets worse and the expense of fixing it grows.  What’s the difference between the City of Dearborn Heights and what they are doing now from Detroit? For years Detroit did nothing to take care of that city’s infrastructure the end result is a problem so large that the city can’t get a handle on it.

Is Dearborn Heights heading down this same path of self-destruction? Can the city ever catch up and when will the city start to work on the many streets that need repair? Same for the water fund while the Mayor threatens all of us with higher water rates because residents want to sue for damage caused by the flooding. Who’s to say water rates won’t increase so the city can again barrow from that fund. I think we’ll see an increase in our water rates and it will have nothing to do with lawsuits. I think the Mayor will use the lawsuits as an excuse to raises the rates.  In the meantime money that is supposed to be used to fix the city is now being borrowed and used to keep the city running.

Maybe we should all do what the Mayor suggested to a resident who came before the council some months back about her street. At that time the Mayor said maybe she should get together with her neighbors and look into hiring someone and do it themselves. Just how does that work Mr. Mayor? Do the residents who decide to hire a company at their own expense to have the street redone now own it? After all you’re talking about thousands of dollars to have a street redone. How and who would give the residents on a street the authority to do that? You, or the City Council would you have to go to court for that? Better yet what will happen when neighborhoods get together and hire a lawyer to take the city to court to compel the city to use the road funds for the intended purpose, fixing the streets.  Will the city have the money to even begin to repair the damage caused by neglect?

 

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43 thoughts on “If street repair is put off for a few more years what will the streets look like then?”

  1. I wish garbage put out times were the only thing we need to worry ourselves about. I dont care if they get put out a 4:00 or 6:00, just put them away ASAP after the collection.

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  2. To my knowledge they are not getting new health care because they’ve taken the early out. They will be getting healthcare from their retirement healthcare

    They come back working for the city they will not be able to put any more towards their pension. I’m not sure if they are rehired or how they are brought back to the city. They never leave snoot sure how that works. I do know that they must sign an agreement not to put more towards their pension.

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  3. Vegas,
    The employees were allowed to purchase years in order to leave early. The savings will be HUGE in healthcare. There really wasn’t a “package”. They didn’t get anything more than any other person that retired has. They have paid money to the city to leave early. If you look at the minutes from the council meeting that are posted on the city’s website, you can follow exactly what the details were!

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  4. When an employee retires, and is then re-hired, the employer normally does not pay any benefits . Therefore, they would not experience the cost of paying sick pay, vacation pay and holiday. In addition, normally there is no insurance coverage. If the employer hired a “new” worker, they would incur the above costs. While the retiring employee does benefit (pension plus earnings), the employer is actually saving costs. Further, the employer save costs by not having to post for the position, test, then hire and train a new worker. It really is a “win win” for both parties

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  5. Why don’t you spend your time informing people since you have so much knowledge instead of making fun of them. As to your first note, I am aware of what’s going on in the city. How could you visit this blog and not be? As to what’s gone before the council, THAT’S WHY I ASKED, SEAN. I’m still waiting for an answer from someone who knows under what circumstances these people are being brought back. As I asked, are they being re-hired and if so, does it affect their pension(s) and does their re-hiring open the city up to healthcare down the road? I’d appreciate it if you would answer, Kathy. You can refrain from any more replies, Sean. I’m a little tired of your sarcastic-self.

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  6. How does offering early outs to employees and rehiring them save anything on the city budget? I can see if you don’t replace them you save money. If its to save healthcare costs on a new employee why make the offer keep the status quo. This seems like a plus to the early outer and a minus to the city budget. Anyone know what the package was?

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  7. Hey Bitsy….. Look how easy it is to find accurate information. Instead of GUESSING, why not do research like this all knowing Guru!!! Make sure you read section #2:

    Sec. 17-35. – Receptacles.

    The occupant or occupants of every building where waste accumulates and, in the case of multiple dwellings, the owners, lessee or agent, shall cause to be provided for the building, keep clean and in place, proper receptacles as herein described. Receptacles that are badly broken or otherwise fail to meet the requirements of this chapter may be classified as rubbish and, after due notice to the users, be disposed of as rubbish.

    (1)
    For garbage and rubbish, receptacles must be portable and constructed of metal or plastic and so maintained to be watertight. The maximum weight of garbage and rubbish allowed in any one receptacle or container shall be fifty (50) pounds. The maximum volume of garbage and rubbish allowed in any one receptacle or container shall be thirty-two (32) gallons. Portable rubbish and garbage containers shall have handles and be of substantial construction to permit dumping into the collection trunks. Portable metal, wooden or plastic containers that do not comply with these regulations, other than metal or wooden baskets with handles in good condition, may be collected as rubbish without notice. Rubbish that is larger than can be contained in receptacles must be securely tied in compact bundles, but not to exceed the above specified gallonage or poundage, and placed in a location designated for collection.
    (2)
    All receptacles shall be located within private property, except that in case of existing structures which extend to the alley line, receptacles for waste may be placed in a public alley under written permit by the building and engineering department, provided, that where the property does not abut upon an alley, portable receptacles shall be placed as directed by the building and engineering department. Receptacles scheduled for pickup at the street line shall be placed after 6:00 p.m. on the day prior to the regular collection and removed no later than 6:00 p.m. on the day pickup has been made.
    (3)
    Newspapers shall be separately accumulated, securely and neatly bundled, and tied in packages not exceeding twenty-five (25) pounds. Newspapers shall be stacked separately and not be placed in rubbish or garbage containers.

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  8. Bitsy,
    I am paying attention as well. I have never claimed to be an all-knowing Guru!!!! If you were really paying attention then you would have seen this item go before the council. You may want to do a little more research. I would give the information (and it’s not a rumor – I talk only FACTS), but I don’t want to appear all-knowing! The information is absolutely available to your “paying attention” self!!!

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  9. Wow, Sean. If you had read any of my posts, you’d know that I’m paying attention. Were you aware all-knowing Guru, that there was a rumor on this blog awhile back that IF the city brought back retired, pensioned employees, they needed to sign a waiver that said that any new hours accrued would NOT be added to their pension, thereby increasing their current pension payments? It sounds like these employees are retired-pensioned employees. I have no problem with them receiving their same salary. What other incentive would they have to come back? I know for a fact that Ford Motor usually re-hires retired employees as Contract employees and in almost all instances, their contract salary is much more than their regular salary was. The problem, if there is one, would be if their hours were added to their current pension thereby increasing it. Does anyone know under what set of rules these people are being brought back? Are they being re-hired, thereby opening the city up to pay their health care down the road?

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  10. I don’t know if your question about what time to put out your trash cans was rhetorical or if you were actually asking. Anyway, just in case, it “seems” to me that there’s a rule/law (whatever) somewhere where it states you can’t put your trash out any earlier than approximately 4:00 (or it could even by 6:00 p.m.) the night before your trash pickup. Don’t hold me to those times but I’m pretty sure that’s right.

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  11. I watched one of the council meetings and someone else asked about that property. It’s in the courts so nothing can be done until the courts make their decision.

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  12. Linda,

    How eary is too early? If my trash day is Friday, can I put it out on Monday? As far as which city employee has the luxury of driving around every week to see whose trash cans are out early, perhaps you are not familiar with what the ordinance officers do. I suppose they could sit in their office all day and wait for a call to come in about a possible violation. Or they could be proactive (instead of reactive) and be out in the city checking for violations. Just a thought…..

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  13. I wonder why cities don’t offer buildings like that for free to demolition companies that will take them down and salvage the materials. I’ve often wondered why Detroit doesn’t do that with the old Packard Plant–put some of those “demolition cowboys” who keep getting caught stripping perfectly good homes to work doing something useful (and profitable).

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  14. The agreement says that the money will be paid back by September of this year. As I recall in the City Council discussion, they anticipated having more tax revenue by then because of the HO.

    I wonder if a motion to pay it back will come up as an item on the Council’s agenda.

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  15. Again, Dearborn Heights is NOTHING like Detroit. Maybe if you are calling it like you see it, you should get some glasses. There is a huge difference!!!

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  16. Vegas,
    I’m not understanding your reply. “Only the employees needed to provide the required services.” Tell me what you mean because each and every department is extremely understaffed. Are you saying that the city should cut MORE employees?

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  17. This city hardly looks like Detroit. And if I don’t have a job if an EM comes in, then I don’t. I will have NO problem finding another!!!

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  18. I’m not sure what their pay is, but it does save the city from paying a new persons health care. That seems like the only savings to me. But, I do not think they should be given their same salary!!!!!!

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  19. This so sad to this city this way what is going on with the burned apartment building on Vanborn that needs to be demolished!

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  20. Right !where does it stop; while were at it well all pay for all the demolishing needed. The academy apartment fire was years ago but the building sits in disgrace.

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  21. Sean

    It was my understanding that the comptroller and others who took the early outs and are coming back to work will be coming back at full salary. Originally they were going to come back at a part time salary, but work full time and of course have their pensions. What happened to that plan?

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  22. EMPLOYEE I LIVE IN DETROIT WARREN AND SOUTHFIELD AREA..MOVED HERE IN 1960 .BECAUSE I SEEN WHAT WAS HAPPENING TO DETROIT .AND NOW ITS GOING TO HAPPEN HERE.WATCH..

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  23. Seriously, Bitsy. I know that you come to the blog often. Are you unaware the city hall is closed and all the employees there have taken a pay cut? There has also been several people “let go” recently from the city. There have been many employees that have retired on an early retirement and then coming back part time saving the city from paying a new persons health care, including the city comproller. There are other things I could list, but maybe you should pay attention yourself!

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  24. EMPLOYEE I HAVE LIVED HERE SINCE 1960 LOOK AROUND THIS CITY IS LOOKING AND THE PEOPLE RUNNING IT ARE TURNING INTO DETROIT HEIGHTS.MAYBE YOU SHOULD LOOK FOR A NEW JOB BECAUSE YOU WONT HAVE ONE IF A EFM COMES TO DBH.

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  25. Sorry, Big Dog, but I’m really getting tired of people calling this Detroit Heights. Give it a rest. We are no way as bad as Detroit. The only thing that bothers me is the number of people buying up our houses to rent them out and not paying really close attention to those they are renting to. I wish there was a way we could limit the number of rentals in any given area. Neighborhoods used to be a place set up for families to invest in over a period of time. We’re now getting to the place where we have more “transients” in the neighborhood than owners.

    As far as borrowing money from one fund to cover another, pretty soon all will be exhausted. You can’t keep taking money from other funds without it impacting the city as a whole. I think I’ve asked this before but where are the “cuts” our mayor was supposed to enact? I could have missed something but has he done anything?

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  26. Dear Employee
    I have looked at the budget. I have looked at all the salaries and benefits . They are listed by position. Most salaries are comparable to that of the private sector. Some being higher. Benefits are excessive compared to the private sector. This is your reality check. The city cannot afford to only pay for salaries and benefits. Services are required. The city has two choices. Either bring the salary and benefit packages into something more affordable or completely do away with non essential departments and people.
    I am not clueless. However I think you have your head in the sand.

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  27. Property taxes and water bills are both liens against the property. I wonder if that makes the water bill a property tax. If the water bill doesn’t reflect the true cost of providing water, then is the City taxing us outside of the laws we have that limit property taxes? I wonder if other communities bury “piggy bank” items in their water bills. Maybe someone with a legal background could check that out.

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  28. Excuse me Vegas, but who do you think is doing the work for the city? It’s the employees who are paid and do get benefits. I’m really not sure how much you think we make, but please take a look at the budget!!!! PLEASE!!!! Get a clue!!!!!

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  29. I KEEP TELLING YOU PEOPLE TO CHANGE THE SIGN ON TELEGRAPH TO WELCOME TO DETROIT HEIGHTS. BRING ON THE EFM THIS CITY NEEDS ONE. SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF B.S. IN THIS CITY GOING ON.

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  30. If memory serves I believe they did approve the borrowing of the money. There was a legal opinion given by the city lawyer an agreement was drawn in-order to take the funds. If the city wasn’t borrowing from these funds what would have happened to the city? In this budget he’s showing a surplus haven’t been able to find where in the budget he’s paying these borrowed money’s back.

    I’m waiting for the other shoe to drop when our water rates go up he’s laying the ground work already to get us prepared for it.

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  31. If the Mayor thinks we should hire someone “on our own” to fix the streets, then maybe we should hire someone “on our own” to do his job, too (like an EFM who will make sure funds are used for the purpose for which they were intended).

    What would it take to add words to the Charter that make sure funds already tagged with a purpose can’t be “borrowed.”

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  32. The council is always preaching about property values. Keep your grass cut . Hide your garbage cans. They must ticket the residents to make sure the city looks good. However the things they are in charge of never happen. Maybe the mayor and the council should get a ticket for every day they allow the streets and the sewer system to go to hell.

    The just plain fact is the employee package of wages and fringes take up a big portion of the budget. Which also includes the retiree packages. After paying for the people their is no money for fixing the streets and the sewers. The money that is being borrowed is to meet payroll expenses. Like it or not the powers that be need a reality check.

    The budget should be zero based. Start with what is it the city needs to service the residents. Police,fire , streets , sewers, etc. Wage and fringe packages have to be brought into line with reality. Some services will have to be eliminated as they are no longer affordable. Instead of doing a proper budget process they look to fill the gaps with how can we squeeze more money out of the residents via stupid tickets . The latest being five bucks a garbage can.

    To answer your question the streets will not last another year much less five. I am under the impression that some of the money the city gets from the state is for street repair. Instead they are using it for other purposes.

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