Is This The Solution To The Use Of City Cars?

 

The system, suggested by Councilman Thomas Berry, would require employees to put in an identification number, a vehicle number and the vehicles mileage after using a city vehicle. Source: Times Herald

Read the full story and give your take on this… You can all so take a Poll on Councilwoman Janet Badalow’s Facebook Page have your say.

Here is my take how much is it going to cost the city to implement this? I am asking Councilman Tom Berry this question because he suggested this system.

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8 thoughts on “Is This The Solution To The Use Of City Cars?”

  1. Councilman Berry,
    What a coincident, my name is Tom Berry and for some reason I ran across this discussion.

    I run a company (Fuelman of DFW) that does a similar service for many public sector entities here in the Dallas/Fort Worth area. Many Counties, School Districts, Cities (and even volunteer Fire Departments!) are utilizing the advantages of the controls and reporting a fuel card system offers. (Not credit cards, fuel only cards)

    As we say in Texas, “I don’t have a dog in this fight” but just wanted to let some of your folks know that this is a pretty standard practice and well accepted around the country.

    Your city could be well served to consider a service such as this and I think you would realize immediate savings. I am sure you could get testimonials from other municipalities on the results. It is very audit friendly and provides a transparent accounting of fuel purchasing by vehicle or employee. There is an old saying in management “people respect what you inspect” and with these economic times, this provides a gentle way of enforcing fueling guidelines without having to take punitive measures.

    Hope it works out for you. Good luck with the project.

    Tom Berry (no relation, I am sure)

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  2. Anonymous

    Councilman Berry said that the company he works for has used the company in the past that he is referring to. He will not be getting any kind of a kick back he is only asking for the company to come in and give a presentation he said here on the blog that it is his understanding that it will not cost the city anything and they will get paid from the state.. June 21 is not far away so we will wait and see what this company has to say..

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  3. totally agree. that was well said.
    councilman berry, is only concerned about his self serving interests.
    did i hear in the last meeting that councilman berry say it’s his employer that offers
    these services, of something? or someone he knows? if so, does he get a kick back?

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  4. TOM BERRY YOU AND THE COUNCIL HAD KNOW ABOUT THIS PROBLEM FOR YEARS AND NOW YOUR WANTING TO DO SOMETHING. YOU ARE NUMBER 1 TO KISS UP TO THE MAYOR. WHY DIDNT YOU GIVE THE BUGDET MORE TIME BEFORE VOTING ON IT. CAN ANYBODY TELL ME WHEN IS THE CITY GOING TO TEAR DOWN THE BURNED OUT HOUSE ON BEECH DALY.LOOKS LIKE WE LIVE IN DETROIT.

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  5. Just for the record getting to and from work according to IRS regs is personal use. Which means people that work at city hall must claim personal use for going from their home to city hall. If they leave city hall for lunch going and returning is personal use. When leaving city hall to return home that is personal use. If you work at city hall and must show up at a remote site The difference between is personal use. Cars are for business purposes only.
    All personnel with cars should be given IRs forms with the amount that is taxable to them . Including the value of the car, gasoline, insurance, repairs and maintenance. Most cases tend to be a 60 personal 40 business split unless of course you have a position that puts you on the road eight hours a day.
    So why not have people drive their own cars to work and have two or three fleet cars available at city hall for business use. On the occassion where someone has to use their own car for business purposes ….pay mileage.
    Having a fleet of cars for most city employees is a waste of taxpayers money.
    To Councilman Berry I found you and the mayor telling councilwoman Van Houten she was micro managing and she can only deal with the budget quite a farce when two minutes later you did the same thing in offering your plan to have a company come in to look over the process. Which I might add was well received by your male counterparts. Nervy Nervy nervy shame shame shame.

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  6. Let me begin by addressing the title of this posting ‘Is This The Solution To The Use Of City Cars?’ and the answer is, no! But after careful review of the City Charter I have written a resolution that will, with the concurrence by a majority of Council, serve as a solution to the use of city cars.

    Moving forward and into the business of knowing our vehicles operating expenses. I have invited the company Wright Express who’s business is level 3 fleet management reporting. Level 3 represents a detailed reporting system that a regular fuel card or credit card cannot offer. They provide purchase reports per vehicle, per department, per person. They provide exception reports alerting us to unauthorized purchases, non-business hours and days, excessive fuel amounts or pricing to name a few. Also and I’m certain most interesting to many is the GPS monitoring their system offers. The system acts like an electronic fence and will alert the manager with an out of perimeter notification… More to learn on this.

    Let me address the cost aspect of this program. If I’m correct ,Wright Express has been award a contract through the state of Michigan and if we decide to hire them the cost is zero dollars. The state negotiated this and through the Michigan Bid Net we are entitled to it. Where does Wright Express earn their money? It is my understanding Wright Express earns their profits from the vendors portion much like a credit card service charge. I am not aware of the cost associated to the GPS system, this will be discussed at the special session on June 21, at 7pm. Please join us.

    Thanks For The Question

    Councilperson Tom Berry

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